the option to charge should be made into a rp choice (such as tsidkenu was saying) I don't agree that the caster should be paying the fee upon casting. Temple cost for resurrection could be scaled to your level instead of a set fee, the same way the xp loss is scaled in Myrkul's realm ie 100gp / levelД¤. (I don't like the idea of clerics turning into merchants, selling divinity on paper btw - which god answers letter mail anyway? it seems immoral to hand out your god's personal number to random adventurers, or especially to sell it to them.ДЈ. I also think raise dead and resurrect scrolls should either be made un-scribable, or the cost of scribing them be made close to or equivalent to taking them to the temple. I love the idea of removing the scrolls and items from vendors and loot tables give the power of the gods back into those who serve them.Дў. As someone who plays a cleric, most of the time I feel like a low damage melee healer, (except in the vaults) who waits for someone to need a renew buff while concentrating on my spiritual rpДЎ. Wow, I must say I'm impressed to see this topic addressed in a way that supports the cleric class.

None-the-less, this is a decent idea as well. I would have suggested this route, but, I doubted it would have been supported. We could limit them to drops and crafted items from clerics/favored souls, however. But, why wouldn't those spells be able to be crafted, when all others are? That would be a conundrum. If we did, for the reasons above, we should also remove other utility spells (such as teleport scrolls, dimensional door wands, etc) from items. There is no point to removing those scrolls. If we went this route, Raise Dead scrolls should also require UMD. They require UMD, are uncommon to find, and would share any reagent costs associated with the spell itself. Make res only available through the cleric class and at npcs in temples. This of course, like the rod of resurrection, would not affect any items already in circulation but of course sooner or later those items will get spentД«ut it would put power back into divine roles as far as dead people go, as well as let the few who have scribe scroll make and sell them for useДЄs for the diamond price that was ultimately just an example, but either way i think we would all agree it should be a price that is able to be handled in hole numbers as far as the diamonds go 1000g = 5 diamonds so thats ok, 2000g = 2.5 diamonds so that wouldnt work, 2500g = 2 diamonds so thats fine, which means last choice if shooting for low numbers would be 5000g = 1 diamondДЄC81 wrote:Removal of raise dead, resurrect scrolls etc would be a good start imo. It would be completely fair to pull all raise dead and resurrection scrolls from loot tables and shops they were removed because the clerics complained it was undermining their role (which of course was totally true) once upon a time there actually use to be rods of resurrection sold for 10,000g with 10 charges at candlekeep. It's supposed to be purely a 'battlefield' rez. Ergo I believe the shaman's version of the ability should impose no negative side effects. What the ability does have going for it is it imposes no negative effects on the raised person because that person didn't 'really' die. In PnP it also has a one week cooldown instead of once per day. Personally that is how I've RPed it as well (though being a bit liberal on the number of rounds), if I can't use it immediately after death then I treat it as no longer possible (if people run up and snatch up the body before I can cast, then oh well, you're going to have to get your rez from someone ese). In PnP, it's an ability that can only be used one round after the person died, after which point it becomes no longer usable. A shaman's recall spirit is supposed to be a last ditch holding onto the soul to keep it from departing. Frankly it is more fitting as its own variant rather than either raise or resurrection. I disagree with changes to shaman's recall spirit though. Probably would want to have a vendor that sells Diamonds). (though I agree with handling it as a Diamond cost rather than a flat gold cost, as it requires people to prepare their own reagents ahead of time. You can and probably should impose a gold cost here, I see no issue with that. There should be no 'battlefield' resurrection from non-divine casters to begin with. I would personally just get rid of all Raise/Resurrect items (scrolls, wands, etc) and only allow dedicated divine casters and NPC priests to do it.

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